Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

03/28/2007 08:00 AM Senate SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
= SB 1 INCREASE AMT OF BASE STUDENT ALLOCATION
Moved SB 1 Out of Committee
* SB 10 TRUANCY OFFICERS
Heard & Held
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
                    SB  10-TRUANCY OFFICERS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
8:06:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS announced SB 10 to be under consideration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
TOM  OBERMEYER, aide  to Senator  Davis, sponsor  of SB  10, said                                                               
that  the   committee  substitute   (CS)  before   the  committee                                                               
incorporated the  provisions of  SB 3,  a different  bill dealing                                                               
with truancy.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked Mr. Obermeyer to  talk about SB 10 first, and                                                               
then discuss the CS.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER  said that the purpose  of the bill is  to employ a                                                               
truant officer  for each  school district  with an  average daily                                                               
membership  of at  least 1,000,  in order  to enforce  compulsory                                                               
attendance.  State law  and  city ordinances  can  hold both  the                                                               
student and  parents responsible for school  attendance, imposing                                                               
fines and  other sanctions. Truancy  leads to high  dropout rates                                                               
and other  social problems, and early  intervention is important.                                                               
Alaska has one of the lowest  graduation rates in the nation; the                                                               
state posted a  63.6 percent graduation rate in  2006, with males                                                               
and  most minorities  well below  the  national average.  Current                                                               
truancy laws  have no method  of enforcement, and this  bill will                                                               
allow a  concerted effort by  truancy officers,  law enforcement,                                                               
teachers, and community members to  curb truancy and its negative                                                               
effects.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:10:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS asked  how badly  Alaska's  school performance  is                                                               
compared with the rest of the nation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER  replied that  dropout  rates  can be  misleading,                                                               
because  they don't  reflect the  true number  of graduates.  The                                                               
Alaska Native  group dropout rate  is at 14 percent,  and overall                                                               
our graduation  rate is one  of the lowest  in the nation.  On of                                                               
the  biggest resulting  problems is  that many  dropouts enter  a                                                               
downward  spiral  into  worse   issues;  drugs,  teen  pregnancy,                                                               
violence, the prison system, etc.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  said  that  he  was shocked  by  the  numbers  of                                                               
dropouts among prison inmates.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:13:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked  for elaboration on the  history of truancy                                                               
officers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER referenced a document  showing that truant officers                                                               
were  present in  the state  in 1987;  he explained  how the  law                                                               
language worked,  and how it put  a state officer in  each school                                                               
authorized  to request  warrants and  compel appearance  before a                                                               
court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He added  that there's been  an attempt  to keep the  fiscal note                                                               
low in  the bill, but  it remains substantial; only  13 districts                                                               
in the  state will  qualify for truant  officers, but  the fiscal                                                               
note  will be  around $1  million. However,  the large  districts                                                               
that can pay for the officers are the ones that need it most.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS said  that his natural inclination is  to blame the                                                               
approach;  maybe  the  problem  is students'  motivation,  and  a                                                               
truant officer won't necessarily fix this.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER  replied  that habitual  truancy  does  exacerbate                                                               
other problems  and the bill is  a late solution to  the problem.                                                               
The intent of  the bill, however, is to create  a way of avoiding                                                               
suspension   or  expulsion,   which  are   ineffective  ways   of                                                               
addressing the  problem. Parent and community  involvement should                                                               
be increased  as well. Earlier  action should be taken,  but this                                                               
approach will,  at least,  help kids  graduate. A  truant officer                                                               
with no authority  would be ineffectual; an  officer working with                                                               
the district can help create a solution to the problem.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:19:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS said  that the matter is  really more comprehensive                                                               
than just the issue the bill  addresses, and the CS would need to                                                               
address more  issues; he then  asked if the  title of the  CS was                                                               
adequate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER  replied that  he'd  leave  that decision  to  the                                                               
committee; the original bill was  far narrower, whereas the CS is                                                               
comprehensive.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  said that a broad  title would be good,  and asked                                                               
for the differences in the CS.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:20:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER said  that  there  was an  explanation  of the  CS                                                               
before the  committee, and  the CS  was requested  to incorporate                                                               
language from  SB 31,  as well some  other additions.  There were                                                               
some  areas in  which the  language  of the  CS was  found to  be                                                               
unclear,  but that  it  was  before the  committee  that day  for                                                               
discussion purposes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He explained that  the purpose of the bill is  to engage students                                                               
and  parents  in the  school  system;  petitioning in  the  court                                                               
should be a last resort, but could  serve as a final tool for the                                                               
truant  officer. The  intent  of the  CS is  to  require each  of                                                               
Alaska's  schools to  create a  plan  for truancy  and work  with                                                               
other  community   resources  on   the  issue.  It   removes  the                                                               
controversial element from  SB 31 which would have  named a child                                                               
a delinquent after a certain number of absences.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He added that  some of the problems that could  come up regarding                                                               
the bill  would be the  number of days required  before notifying                                                               
parents or truancy.  Juneau is currently the  only large district                                                               
in the state that employs a truant officer.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:25:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  said that the  direction of the bill  and district                                                               
policy needs to be clear in the language.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER  replied that  there are boards  that will  work in                                                               
tandem  to improve  the truancy  situation. He  added that  other                                                               
states use  parent truancy officer programs,  employing community                                                               
resources. The  projects have broadened  to identify  and correct                                                               
the problem.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  said that family  participation is  essential, and                                                               
mentioned  a program  in another  state that  appears to  be work                                                               
well against truancy.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:27:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS   commented  that  bullying  is   a  significant                                                               
component of some children leaving school.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:29:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARL  ROSE,  Executive  Director  of the  Association  of  Alaska                                                               
School Boards, said  that the issue of truancy is  much more than                                                               
just  punishment,  and that  incentive  to  remain in  school  is                                                               
necessary. The value  and relevance of school are  not obvious to                                                               
some kids;  officers are important  but arresting after  the fact                                                               
is not  ideal. Young people  need to be  engaged; if we  know the                                                               
negative end results  of dropping out of school,  why wouldn't we                                                               
try  to  stop   the  problem  earlier?  When   kids  sit  through                                                               
instruction that's less than  engaging, challenging, or relevant,                                                               
at an  early age they start  to lose interest and  begin pursuing                                                               
their own  interests. It's a  struggle to introduce  new elements                                                               
in  the  curriculum,  but  that's   the  best  way  to  encourage                                                               
attendance and graduation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  then gave  an  example  of how  a  practical and  challenging                                                               
curriculum is successful.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:34:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS asked  Mr. Rose  for comments  on parent  and peer                                                               
involvement in truancy.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE  replied that Initiative for  Community Engagement (ICE)                                                               
program statistics show  that the more parents  are involved, the                                                               
more test  scores and attendance  improve. He gave an  example of                                                               
how encouragement  helps students  to avoid  unhealthy decisions,                                                               
and said  that ICE has worked  statewide to help kids  during and                                                               
outside of school hours.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:36:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS said  that there's  a number  of kids  who don't                                                               
spend  any time  at home,  and  asked if  there are  any ways  to                                                               
approach this group in particular.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.   ROSE  explained   that  youth   centers   are  helpful   in                                                               
accommodating  young  people  who  don't  have  a  normal  family                                                               
experience.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  commented that  Asian students  seem to  do much                                                               
better than  other racial groups,  and perhaps it's  because they                                                               
don't have time for anything  but schoolwork. He asked if there's                                                               
any way to capitalize on this discipline for all students.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:38:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROSE  said   that  he  is  one-quarter   Chinese,  and  that                                                               
culturally there's a great emphasis  on working together in Asian                                                               
countries.  He gave  an example  of how  this works  in immigrant                                                               
communities  in the  US, and  said that  family concentration  on                                                               
schooling is the main value that leads to good performance.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS commented that of  all ethnicities in Alaska, the                                                               
Asian group has the best graduation rates.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:41:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GLENN   SZYMONIAK,  Assistant   Superintendent   for  the   Kenai                                                               
Peninsula  Borough   School  District  (KPBSD),  said   that  the                                                               
district supports  the truant officer  legislation; the  KPBSD is                                                               
doing  a few  things that  are effective  in curbing  truancy and                                                               
drop-out rates, including  alternative performance-based programs                                                               
and a  school in the  maximum security prison; putting  a greater                                                               
threat  of  punishment into  the  system  will help.  Home-school                                                               
programs are  sometimes ineffectual,  new students in  a district                                                               
can be  missed by the  school system, and  middle-school students                                                               
become  involved  in  crimes  at an  early  age;  these  students                                                               
realize  early on  that dropping  out  will let  them continue  a                                                               
lifestyle of  crime. They all  need to  be brought back  into the                                                               
system,  but room  for alternative  programs  is necessary.  Even                                                               
long-term suspension  can be assuaged  with lesson plans  sent to                                                               
the student and graded by their teacher.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:46:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  asked if  Mr. Szymoniak  had a  chance to  see the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK  replied that  he hasn't  had a  chance to  see the                                                               
bill yet.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  remarked that the  definition of a  truant student                                                               
can be hazy, and hopefully the  bill will make it clear. He asked                                                               
for comment on home-schooling and its effect on truancy.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK replied that home-schooled  students either do very                                                               
well in public school or have had no schooling whatsoever.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:48:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS said that  performance-based schooling can gather                                                               
up  students that  are  behind  and allow  them  to move  through                                                               
school at a pace that works for them.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SZYMONIAK agreed  that dooming  students  to fail  is a  bad                                                               
option. He mentioned another program that works similarly.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS commented that an  alternative school in the Mat-                                                               
Su district  has a day  care center, and  asked if there  are any                                                               
such centers in Kenai.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SZYMONIAK  replied  that there's  not  an  in-house  daycare                                                               
system yet, but it's in the works.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGGINS said  that  ideally  there would  be  no need  for                                                               
alternative schools;  however, one  of their  keys to  success is                                                               
tailoring the  system to the  students' needs, which works  for a                                                               
select segment of the population.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SZYMONIAK  agreed  that  the  traditional  model  of  school                                                               
doesn't work for all students.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:52:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOU KUSTIN,  Director of Student  Services for the  Juneau School                                                               
District,  said that  Juneau has  had a  truancy tracker  for the                                                               
last two  years and every  year the  efficacy of the  position is                                                               
questioned; the  data, however,  is incontrovertible.  Truancy is                                                               
often caused by poverty, neglect,  boredom, drugs, etc.; it's the                                                               
role of  the truancy tracker  to help determine the  true problem                                                               
behind  the  absence.  Integration  with other  agencies  in  the                                                               
community is important. He added  that sometimes peers do play an                                                               
important role in creating truancy issues.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He said  that in Juneau  the definition  of a truant  varies, but                                                               
after missing four  classes the truancy tracker  system begins to                                                               
follow  a student.  The intervention  program has  been generally                                                               
successful.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:57:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS thanked  Mr.  Kustin,  and said  that  one of  the                                                               
problems the  legislature is facing  is a lack of  consistency in                                                               
the  definition of  truancy. He  asked if  Mr. Kustin  had had  a                                                               
chance to look at the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KUSTON replied that he had, but not in great detail.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  asked if there's  anything in the bill  that would                                                               
adversely affect what Juneau is already doing for truancy.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. KUSTIN replied that there  isn't, and added that a state-wide                                                               
system would be very helpful.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  remarked that the  problem of kids  missing school                                                               
because they live in poverty should be a solvable issue.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:59:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  said that the  subject is very important,  and the                                                               
problem  is  ongoing and  many  school  board members  have  come                                                               
forward to  say that  they need help;  taking action  against the                                                               
problem is  a necessary step.  School districts keep  saying that                                                               
they can't fund the program, and  that has turned out to be true.                                                               
This bill could be the beginning of a solution to the problem.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  said that  the bills will  be brought  back before                                                               
the committee  as soon as  the schedule allows, and,  there being                                                               
no further  business to come  before the committee,  he adjourned                                                               
the meeting at 9:02:32 AM.                                                                                                    

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